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Guns kill people.Illegal guns
"); document.write("Guns kill people,especially illegal guns in the hands of criminals.Guns obtainable anywhere in the world,especially other African countries.Law abiders dont know where to get those, so they rely on guns sold under the law.Those guns are taken away from them,making them easier targets for those conscience less criminals to murder them. All that this law is doing,is killing the law abiding economy builders,leaving the country full of corrupt ,raping,murdering citizens to turn SA into hell,so forcing more economy builders to leave the country.SA will only go down the drains with this new gun law.All humans need guns to protect them.

Good vs evil on a tennis court.Evil have Wimbledon rackets,the good have ping pong bats.How will good win the game? . Frikkie Botes"); document.write("
There will ALWAYS be guns available
"); document.write("The attempt to render South Africa 'gun free' is a typical pie-in-the-sky bit of thinking. South Africa will NEVER EVER be gun free. Even if you managed to remove every single gun in private hands (a completely impossible task), more would instantly come in over our borders. Frikkie Botes is right: all this gun law will do is take away the right of self-defence from law-abiding citizens, leaving fully-armed criminals with no opposition. How stupid can one be to think a law like this can work?. DAL"); document.write("
Firearms
"); document.write("Maybe the SAPS and the Minister of Safety and security need to get a real task force overseen by someone committed to his or her job in the position to get the illegal firearms off the streets of our country.

But the SAPS and the powers that be are pursuing the easy targets, \"THOSE WHO HAVE OWNED LEGAO FIREARMS AND WHO HOLD VALID LICENCES\". This way they can boost that the government have taken thousands of guns of the streets of the country.

GET REAL, TAKE THE WEAPONS OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE GANGS AND ORGANISED CRIME SYNDICATES.

GET RID OF THE CRIME THEN SA WON'T HAVE THE PROBLEM IT HAS WITH FIREARMS. . Alan"); document.write("
Guns today - your house tomorrow
"); document.write("Well done to the folks that have stood up against this deliberate & unconstitutional plot to disarm the people. What planet are GFSA on and what gives them the right to determine what I may and may not own? Next thing the same fools will start House Free South Africa and all those who own more than one house will be criminalised - you think I'm kidding? The consequences of this act are dire but unfortunately most of our fellow citizens cannot see this.. Mike"); document.write("
Gun free my foot!
"); document.write("I think all us law abiding citizens who own \"legal\" firearms should stand up for our rights and not let them take our firearms that we got legally a long time ago. Let's all go on the rampage and pilage and plunder and stone and so on like our black brother do to get heard. Do you think our black brother would stand for this sort of ####, no way!. Seline"); document.write("
See it for what it is.
"); document.write("This whole new gun law must be seen for what it is, a deliberate effort to disarm the white community! Sounds racist? Of course it is. Racist efforts by the government, just like BEE, AA etc.
Where I live they have also banned dogs from the beaches (even on leads). Reason for this is simple.
Eish, you know that white man I could rob on the beach last week because you took his gun away, well, he has a big dog with him now - please take it away also because that animal it biting me.
Paranoia? You bet! After the incident where the fellow took out one of his kidnappers with his knife last week, they'll be coming for our biltong knives next.
I have had a gun for 33 years, and have never needed to use it to defend myself, but I sure as nuts don't want to be without it on the day where I am confronted by a thug who means to harm me - I hope this never happens, for I believe that guns should only be produced on 2 occassions, to clean it, or to use it in defence - may I only need to clean it for as long as I live.. Krotekoker"); document.write("
FCA
"); document.write("Congratulations Ryan Bubear on a well written piece, got the facts straight, sadly unusual amongst 'journalists' so good one, Sir! Gun-Free SA's allegation about SAPS being overloaded by late renewal applications falls flat when considered against the number of people who applied two or three years ago and have still heard nothing back? The SAPS were supposed to have been prepared to accept 2 million renewals over 5 years and have only so far managed to process around 400 000? Regarding a 'Gun-Free' country .... well, I will always need guns on the farm as tools [to shoot snakes, rabid dogs, put down horses and cull antelope] BUT I would be happy to give up my everyday, self-defence carry pistol IF the bad guys agree to give up their guns first? Gun control doesn't disarm criminals, owning an AK47 has always been illegal but that doesn't stop the criminals, does it? Legal gunowners are NOT the problem ... crime and criminals are.. nuff ced"); document.write("
COMPENSATION CASE
"); document.write("It will be interesting to see how much this mess called the Firearms Control Act ends up costing taxpayers if Justice Alliance of SA win their case. JASA’s Case is seeking compensation for Gunowners against Minister of Safety and Security and Registrar of Firearms to be heard in the Western Cape High Court on August 31 2009 . The Acting Judge President of the Western Cape High Court has ordered the case to be heard on August 31 notwithstanding the failure of the Respondents to file any Defence.

[from www.jasa.za.net ]\"JASA filed papers in the Cape High Court seeking declarations that the refusal to pay compensation to persons who surrender firearms as required by the Firearms Control Act, 2000 offends against the Constitution.

For over 4 years since the relevant legislation came into force the Minister and National Police Commissioner (Registrar of Firearms) have refused to comply with section 137 of the Act. JASA alleges in its affidavit that the State has acted ‘unreasonably and arbitrarily, and without procedural fairness, in that most applications are rejected out of hand, ignored or simply filed away’, contrary to section 33 of the Constitution which requires just administrative action for all persons.

Both individuals and dealers have suffered financial hardship; in one of several supporting affidavits filed in court it is alleged by one dealer that she suffered a loss of over R.2m as a result of refusal by all three Respondents to assist her after she had surrendered her stock of firearms. In another affidavit a lady of over 70 years of age tells of how she was treated with disdain and discourtesy, and repeatedly told she was not entitled to compensation, when she surrendered one firearm at her local police station. JASA alleges a further breach of the Constitution in that section 25 forbids deprivation of property without compensation.\". nuff ced"); document.write("
Waiting
"); document.write("I applied for my gun license in 2003 when i was suppose to, as i am a dedicated sportsman and own numerous guns and use every one of them regularly. I waited 2 years for my new licences and according to the \"competent\" authorities my licenses expire this year so i will be applying again and who knows, maybe i'll get my licenses just in time to renew them again! They are so far up #### creek without a paddle. . mark"); document.write("
SUPPORT the SAHGCA case
"); document.write("SA Hunters & Game Conservation Association (www.sahunt.co.za/en/dringende_hofaansoek.aspx) are the ones who won the reprieve and will be taking the case to the Constitutional court. They need the support of all legal gunowners. I'm not a member but I've showed my appreciation with a donation.

Bank = ABSA ;
Branch = Pretoria-North ;
Acc. No. = 0144 399 00 77 ;
Account Type = Cheque ;
Branch code = 632 005 ;
ref: REGSFONDS ......... When you were stood in the queue to renew your licence or hand in your guns, how much would you have paid then just to keep them? . nuff ced"); document.write("
Firearm law etc etc
"); document.write("It was said before 1994 that the whites would have to pay for apartheid. And they do - if there is any unused way of cross subsidising out there I will be surprised. Water, electricity, rates, etc are all used as an additional tax to correct the past evils. The \"taming\" of the previous oppressors continues through the selective enforcing of the excellent laws in this country. Non payment of TV licences, water/electricity/rates is carried out with vigour against this generally compliant \"soft\" target.What do the taxi's do when any attempt is made to enforce the law on them?? The dis-arming of this potential threat to the government when its service delivery implodes and unrest breaks out is part of long standing communist strategy to ensure ongoing domination. All the other reasons put out are a smoke screen. . Persecuted"); document.write("
A Democratic society does not
"); document.write("make laws to govern the action of criminals - this should be obvious to even the most dull politician and citizen.

Why then did the ANC and their droids (gfsa) LIE TO PARLIAMENT saying the the Firearm Confiscation Act would remove illegal guns from society?

Criminals don't obey laws anyhow so why would they obey this one?
Because they are suddenly overcome by the knowledge of the error of their ways?

The FCA was drafted, using the GFSA's Canadian model, to REMOVE LICENSED FIREARMS FROM LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.

Canada saw that it would be horrifically expensive and canned their legislation.

If the FIREARMS CONFISCATION ACT was applied and COMPENSATION PAID, AS STIPULATED BY LAW, it would be more expensive that the damn Arms Deal to implement so THEY LIED - and are STILL LYING.

Why make the criminals job easier by DISARMING THE VICTIMS?

The FCA is a joke and should be REPEALED.

. Bodie"); document.write("
something a child can grasp
"); document.write("The government has lost the fight against crime. It has failed to rid society of illegal firearms. It can however not be seen to be doing nothing, so in an attemp to look as if they are taking action and working towards a resolve, they take on the soft targets...the law abiding citizen. They've done the same with motorists, sabc customers, eskom customers, taxpayers,etc. Target the soft targets and forget about the taxi drivers, illegal electricity connections, armed criminals,etc. You will not rid us of crime by targetting the victims. Alwyn"); document.write("
Oh and to gun free south africa...
"); document.write("I'm going to be crass if I type what I wanted to. You don't have a ####### clue what you are talking about. Go ####### hug a tree or something useful. As an ex-cop I have no problem with a properly trained and responsible gun owner. Everytime I've heard someone from gun free sa give a speach I've heard pure nonsense being dug up. Leave the responsible gun owners alone and target the worthless criminals that you are helping to enable. Alwyn"); document.write("
African Logic
"); document.write("One of the entire world's single biggest problems is the sale of illegal arms, which basically fuels the majority of the worlds criminal activities. THAT IS WERE YOU RETARDS SHOULD FOCUS on. Not on Piet en Saartjie in boksburg who just want to have some kind of security in this crime ridden world. Go hound the companies that manufacture guns and arms...But i reckon their too rich and powerful and when someone gives them a little trouble they just throw money in someones face. the SAPS is worse than eskom and sabc put together.... Braam"); document.write("
GFSA
"); document.write("It seems that the Guns issue is a warped political one with the gun owners, pro-lifers and meat eating conservatives on one side and the tree hugging, non fly-swatting, vegetarian, non leather belted, pro choice, bare footed pseudo commies on the other. It is interesting that people at GFSA would want to remove guns from legally licensed owners in case they kill someone, but probably don’t have a problem with the killing an unborn baby in an abortion clinic, by virtue of their political beliefs ?. terry"); document.write("
South Africa and Guns
"); document.write("What seems to be lost to every one. I can leave a fully loaded weapon on a table for 50 years and nothing will happen as long as an idiot dosn't pick it up and play with it. Dont licence the gun licence the person . Stop f###### around with us owners the GFSA should watch what they say, wasn't one of their own who recently shot a bystander when chasing some one who mugged their child. Oops do as I say and not as I do. All of you make me sick I love guns my family loves guns, we all know the saftey rule. But as usual do gooders must try and run our lives for us. . reb"); document.write("
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